"Oh yes," I agreed, "there is so much evil all around us. Satan is hard at work...or...do you believe there is a Satan?" .
"Yes, yes, and angels. They are using us to do their good and bad deeds."
"Yes, I agree there are good and bad angels. Do you believe they would exist even if we didn't?"
"No, no...they are in all of us."
What? I thought. Now I'm really confused. Then I asked, "Well the real question is whether we will go to heaven (or paradise or whatever term you use) after we die. What is the way to heaven?"
"Our good deeds, of course."
I have had problems with my Rav4 ever since I bought it two months ago. This morning I got a glimpse of a possible reason why God allowed all the car issues. I found myself in Moraf's office... again. My car was getting checked...again. But this time we had a lively discussion on the differences in our faiths, between biblical Christianity and the Islamic religion.
Moraf is a successful business man in Mwanza, an Indian, and a Muslim. Other BIMT missionaries have been working on building a relationship with this man for many years now.
This morning Moraf had a guest sitting in his office with him, a cousin of his, another Indian man who grew up in Uganda and has moved to Sweden to publish Islamic materials. And what a conversation we had! We talked about 9-11 (and boy do they have a different perspective of that!), we talked about the war in the middle east, we talked about the Koran and the Bible.
"May I just say this one thing though?" I asked. "I do not pretend to understand everything or be a student of all religions, but from what I can see, there is one major difference between the true Christianity of the Bible (not just general protestantism) and all other religions." I seemed to have gotten their attention so I continued. "All religions have some set of rules or a list of requirements to earn their way to heaven (or paradise or nervana). But the Bible says the way to heaven is only by accepting God's gift of salvation. Jesus already did all the work when He died on the cross for all of us."
Oh, it got exciting from there!
"How could Jesus do such a thing?"
"He's God," I answered. (Since Muslims reject the biblical view of the Trinity, you can imagine the reaction! )
"How many gods do you serve?"
I normally despise arguments and avoid conflict of any kind. Clearly I was surrounded by the presence of God and enabled by His grace because I was thoroughly enjoying myself. :-)
"Three in one," I said. "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. I don't pretend to understand it. The God of the universe is bigger than my tiny brain; how could I possibly understand Him? But I believe it! Take an egg... one egg, but how many parts? 3. Somehow God, too, is one and yet three."
Somewhere about there word came that my car was ready to go. Thankfully our conversation was lively but not heated. We parted with smiles and handshakes.
"Father, are you drawing these men to the Savior? Work your work of grace in their hearts, Holy Spirit, that they may understand the incredible sacrifice of the Lamb, offered for them!"